Feeding the 'parents' alive to Wu's pigs(Deadwood reference) is too good for them.

Perhaps they should be taken to the old Lubyanka in Moscow, where in the basement the KGB kept a furnace. The new agents were always shown this furnace before they were sworn in. The furnace was specially designed for double-agents,people who had betrayed their oath to the KGB. The condemned would be lowered into the furnace in small, almost infinitesmal stages and would be burned slowly over days if not weeks, suffering excruciating pain all the while, but not enough to cause him to pass out. Even that may be too good for these 'parents.' Frankly, it makes me hope there is an Inferno for such people.

Why juxtapose this story with one about how much it costs to have a short woofing guy in Britain? The people in the story were cat owners, which figures.

Bart:

Europe has chosen pets over people.

Damnit, PJ & OJ, I'd been trying to avoid reading this story all morning because I knew it would break my heart. I am typing through tears.

Let's hope that German prisons treat child killers the way most American ones do.

Whenever I read about something like this (child burned in oven, child drowned, child scalded, child brutalized, etc.), I look at my own children with fear and awe (the same way I looked at my son on the morning of 9/11, when I put him in his crib for his nap).

Did this 'mother' get back at the child for the pain of giving birth (which doesn't even have to be an issue today). Is the father a leftover Nazi who worships Mengele? Or just himself?

jim:

Prison? They won't go to prison. how many Frenchmen went to prison when they killed their parents two summers ago.

they are already in prison, its called "europe".

oj,

It is unfair to generalize that way about Europeans or anyone from the depraved behavior of this one couple. There are vermin like this all over the world.

The deaths of thousands of older people in France were really weird. Middle class French people will stick their parents in these government owned retirement facilities that resemble nothing so much as they do a county hoosegow. The construction is terrible, the amenities minimal, the air conditioning non-existent, the ventilation dreadful, the heating poor and the electricity antiquated.

The French who do this seem like decent people, they don't have any intention of abusing their parents. They seem instead to be completely brainwashed into believing that the government will take care of the old folks, after all the average Frenchman pays about 50% of his income in taxes and it sure ain't going to the military, law enforcement or the roads. Given a choice between believing the government or their own lyin' eyes, they pick the government.

The French are so heavily into this kind of self-delusion that one cannot imagine them understanding 'The Emperor's New Clothes.'

Bart:

You want a Culture of Death that's what you'll get.

The parents were charged with manslaughter? Please tell me the legal definition of manslaughter is different in Germany than in the US. Surely this is first degree murder - they knew they were murdering her and were doing so deliberately.

"The French who do this seem like decent people"

Any resemblance between the French and decent people is coincidental and not intended.

I note that the authorities buried the child but took the cat to a "home for domestic pets". I think OJ's "Europe has chosen pets over people" is exactly right. I bet the neighbors knew they had a cat.

In the midst of all this Euro-bashing, let's recall that Americans are sending their elderly parents away by the millions as well. Nor should we forget that the state of Florida is about to legally starve a helpless woman to death. The Culture of Death bridges the Atlantic.

We area about to do, and tolerate, the same thing in Florida. The difference is what we are about to do it under the law. Whose worse?

Paul:

In FL the people are stopping the elites. No one is fighting back in Europe.

We area about to do, and tolerate, the same thing in Florida. The difference is what we are about to do it under the law. Whose worse? (Sorry for writing too quickly and not noticing I was repeating the same thought as the prior post. That's what anger does.)

OJ:

No one is fighting back in Europe.

Oh no? What about the aging resident St. Peter's? What about the many Catholics loyal to him.

You paint with way too broad a brush.

His followers are black, brown, yellow, and American.

No Poles?

His followers are also European, whether you want to admit it or not. The idea that you would actually argue otherwise is quite hilarious.

What Poles? They've a population in precipitous decline and will soon be gone:

http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_detail.cfm?IndicatorID=138&Country=PL

Poland will exist only in America.

Orrin:

Sorry, boss, but I'm not sure the far edges of human depravity are of much use in indicating anything other than that humans are depraved. Surely this is an atrocity that happened in Europe, not a European atrocity.

That's a pretty cool website. But all the fancy graphs in the world will not change the simple fact that there are millions of European Catholics and opponents of the Culture of Death.

i am no fan of europe, but this kind of thing goes on everywhere. the difference between the u.s. and europe is that the sick bastards here get a real ass whipping of a jail term (or even the death penalty), whereas in europe they get out in a couple of years or even home jailing. europe simply doesn't take crime seriously.

don't even try and compare old folks treatment here with europe until 30,000 croak in one summer. that was the epitath of europe.

Paul:

Dying off.

OJ:

The demographic numbers embrace a huge variety of human activity. Obviously some groups of Europeans are not dying off; and we even make the wild conjecture that Catholics loyal to the teaching of the Church are not among them.

By your logic, America is dying off too -- Hispanic and orthodox Christian birthrates notwithstanding -- because (again by your logic) the composite number is all that matters.

We still have allies and friends in Europe. We should not forsake them.

Forsake them? They're welcome here, where we're not dying off.

But we are dying off, Orrin. Look at your own website; we're pretty close to Poland. Remember, it's the composite number that matters, and there can be no changes. Demographics and economics, the iron laws of history.

Even Americans of European descent reproduce at pretty much replacement rate:

http://brothersjuddblog.com/archives/015079.html

And Europeans of Catholic orthodoxy reproduce at well above replacement rate.

Math isn't my strong suit, so maybe you can explain that in a country that's 97% Catholic with a Fertility Rate of under 1.4?

Most of them are not orthodox Catholics. They are, as one of the nuns who taught me put it, "credit card Catholics."

And that's an argument in favor of Poland's future, why?

But I made no argument in favor of Poland's future. I made two relevant arguments: (1) Not all Europeans are irredeemable nihilists, (2) those that are not deserve our most emphatic support. (Hint: support does not consist in counselling that they abandon their country.)

No, not all Europeans, Europe. The decent Europeans will come here, as they always have. Unless y'all seal the borders....